KEVIN K I picked the Marmot Limestone 4P for a car camping tent too. I did not need the rear door as it is just my wife and I using it. I did not see the need to spend the extra money on the Halo 4 just for better quality material. I took the tent to Pinnacles National Monuement this past weekend in California. The Limestone exceeded our expectations from ease to set it up and just being roomy inside. Yes we got a fair about of condensation on the rain fly but nothing inside the tent itself. It got down into the high 40's this past weekend at Pinnalces National Moument and we felt warm in the tent. Get the Limestone 4P!

DUANE O My wife and I used our Marmot Limestone 4p tent during a two week vacation in August in NE Arizona, SE Utah and SW Colorado. We experienced high winds, rain and temperatures from the 70s down to the 40s F. We camped in BLM and Forest Service campgrounds in high desert, a sandy river beach, and high mountain forests. We did not experience any leaks or condensation problems. The tent has good ventilation. The tent is easy to set up and tear down. I did both by myself several times while my wife was preparing meals. Of course it is easier with two people. I would strongly recommend putting it up the first time at home though, so that you are not trying to figure it out in the dark while it's raining. I would also recommend a good set of after-market tent stakes, especially if you are going to be using it on the beach. I use nine inch steel wedge shaped tent stakes Made in USA (not the thin Made in Taiwan or China stakes). I always stake down the tent and rain fly. The tent is very compact for its size and quality. We liked the storage pockets and lantern loop. We are very pleased with it. As for temperature, it is a tent, so on a cold night it is only a few degrees warmer inside than outside. Duane

SCOTT P I just used it as a car camp tent last week along the Big Sur coast. Temps where in the mid 40 F and the tent was very comfy at that temp. Because we were on the coast there was alot of night time dew, which stayed outside the tent. There was one spot where the fly touched the tent that appeared wet, but no big deal. The touch may have been because it was the first time I set it up, but it did touch. I would say the tent will get hot inside during the day with the fly on as there is not alot of cross ventilation, but works well in colder nights. I used an inflatable mattress (double) and it barely fit thru the door when inflated. The tent materials are first rate and it was very easy to set up. I got this over the Halo due to reviews on more headroom in the Limestone and overall cost. I think that either tent would be a good choice. Overall I like the tent and I'm happy with the purchase.